Leveling too fast? Items wasted?
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Since the latest patches having experience really fly through the game up to 60, I have found some time to level up other toons... however, I find the leveling experience too fast - which is fine for me, but what about new players?
My friend has recenlty bought the game "WoW" and he tells me its too easy and not all that great. I keep telling him, just wait till outlands. But really I should be saying "just wait till you run Uldaman, Mara, ST, ZF, BRD, etc...". But really, why even bother when knowing all the gear you'll get will be out dated in a few days of playing wow - because you level way too fast now.
I took my friends character to SM. He was a level 28 rogue in a matter of a few days playing on his own... We ran SM GY a few times to try and get that rare drop (ring) and got it actually on the 6th or 7th run. By this time, he was lvl 30. We then ran it a few more time to get him to 32. Not a problem with having me as a Tankadin, pulling the entire instance. I think that took a whole 2hrs even with fooling around.
Then, he learnt he learnt his new skills, came back to SM and we ran SM Lib and Arms until he hit 36 or 37 which didn't take more then 3 hours as I could pull all of arms easily enough. So by this time it was ruffly 6 hrs of playing WoW on a Saturday morning to evening. I can see why he felt the game was lacking... He still had crap items from the Tunic of westfall and other low lvl crap items - but didnt need much because of what we were doing in SM. He also got his enchanting up a lot and had accumalated many dusts and shards.
Then we proceded to SM cath and ran it a few times until he hit 40 which seemed to have taken 3 more hours give or take.
"Wow!" right? 12 lvls in 10 hrs give or take. He didn't even get that many drops as SM isn't geared for Rogues at all really. If it wasn't for selling and repairing items, I'm sure we could have ran that in a faster time with still getting him to 40.
He went from lvl 1 to 40 in less than a week. I bought him his mount and helped him buy gear at 40 due to having all crap items that were around 25ish average. What a waste of a WoW experience really.
I know what your all thinking, that I helped him "power level", however I have ran alts without doing instances that leveled 10 levels in a weekend since the latest patches just by doing quests. Yes, lately I play a lot however not at all times - as I'm helping out a friend as we need more dps in our guild at 70.
So, to all you new players that solo and earn your way without having people like me help you, hats off to you.
I really find the game "weak" in a sense it has lost a lot of it's "fun". Where the hell did all the elites go in the world? Great items are useless now until you hit 65 or so.
I understand my friend's point of view, that WoW is a simple and easy game.
That's my rant. I know Blizzard will do nothing to change the game back to what it was because their are so many "younger" inexperienced MMO players. I realize now that the change in the game "making it easier to level and all around an easier game" is for marketing their up and coming movie by having so many players support them. Yeah, politics in Blizzard has made the game dumb by ensuring their epic movie will not lose money.
So Blizz to you. I won't be watching the movie because you have lost sight of the game - too bad.
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Old 16-01-2008, 04:30 PM #2
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I've actually always felt that the 'great' items were useless until closer to endgame. Even before the 2.3 patch, you really didn't have to run any instances for gear, unless it was for a twink.
I've played with items that drop from regular mobs and haven't had any problems leveling. You could always choose to go after certain items, but if you're leveling quickly, you wouldn't use them for very long anyway.
Once Blizz had so many players at level 70, it made sense to make the experience from 30-60 speed up. They are catering to their existing client base that way rather than younger, inexperienced MMO players.
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Old 16-01-2008, 04:33 PM #3
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From reading your post, I don't see how your friend could judge the game. From the sounds of it you have basically played it for him. I agree, sitting back doing nothing while someone else clears an instance is boring. If this truly is his first character then you are not doing him any favors running him through content or power leveling his character.
In regards to gear gotten from instances I see that as just a perk. If you are a player who tends to level quickly then the gear you get from instances while nice won't last long. The point of those lower level instances is not about gear. It is about giving those people who enjoy group play places where they can play together and still be challenged.
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Old 16-01-2008, 04:35 PM #4
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I'm enjoying the faster leveling - used to take a really long time - now it seems more reasonable. Of course I'm not powerleveling or running instances over and over again either, and I level my professions and fish and sometimes help lower levels do a quest or two, so that's probably why. Don't play a rouge(tm) - but the drops and quest rewards I'm getting are working fine - of course, I think I'm mainly wearing stuff a guildie made so maybe I'm not the best judge of that - but the weapon rewards have been reasonable. <shrug> Guess it's all a matter of what you're looking for.
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Old 16-01-2008, 04:38 PM #5
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From reading your post, I don't see how your friend could judge the game. From the sounds of it you have basically played it for him. I agree, sitting back doing nothing while someone else clears an instance is boring. If this truly is his first character then you are not doing him any favors running him through content or power leveling his character.
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IMO you're kind of ruining the game for him by doing the above. IMO that type of leveling etc should be done on a second toon or alt. How many flight paths, zones, story lines, and quests has he missed out on now? Tons actually - and that's part of the game. Having a 70 level his toon through instance runs is entirely wayyyy too boring - I probably wouldn't still be playing if a friend helped my first toon in the way that you are helping him. It takes the fun out of the game. What about rep for faction rewards for his professions, mounts, the experience of finding new places, exploring the world, following long quest chains to new towns, zones, and content, remember that first skull mob you came across - that first elite too? Remember when you thought you were rich when you had 1G? Those moments are what he's not experiencing. By helping him in this way, you're actually taking that all away from him and taking a lot of the fun out of the game. If you want to help him - roll a toon his level and quest WITH him, get in level appropriate groups and run instances (you're stuck on your end game mentality and are forgetting the joy of obtaining that new blue that makes you so much more powerful and makes you think about it when you log for the evening heck you even got him the new epic ring), do level appropriate quests, play the game WITH him not FOR him. Heck he's not even learning how to properly play his character or how to perform properly within a group. IMO a big part of the fun is actually the leveling up process and the quest chains, instances, etc.